Saturday, December 29, 2012

Standing as a Christian

It's not always easy. I do get myself in "trouble" more often then not. I have told people directly that false religions lead to hell, trust me this one isn't always received in good fashion. People do not take kindly to being told false religions lead to hell. One thing many people will fall into the trap of believing hell is the most hideous invention, hey I had those days in the UU when from their pulpits they would tell us how despicable hell was and how Christianity was not true. They didn't get the piece that Jesus Christ came to save us in love from our sins.

I tell people this verse to go along with it:

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

One thing to remember out there is the world has no problem with the "Christians" who embrace all religions as leading to "god", those "Christians" are loved by the world.  Those are not the people who will face what the Bible believer will. In fact many of the false churches are joined with the world as I have shown time and time again on this blog. 

 Of course we want to to tell people that all are called to repentance [Luke 5:32] and Jesus Christ came in love to save them from their sins. 

2 Thess 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

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Some people who may know you but disagree with your religious stands, may just shake their heads. The world will tell you that you have lost your mind, you do not understand and even more insidious messages then this. One's heart can break too, if you deal with people you care about who turn away from the Christian message and maybe even you for delivering it! Remain steadfast and go to God's Word. One cannot deny what they believe or He who has saved them. Look at the book of the Bible I named this very blog after....

Galatians 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

Sometimes I have the kind non-believers who tell me, "you are such a nice person, how did you get these Taliban like beliefs?" when I say I believe other religions are false and will lead people to hell or that Jesus is the only way.  That one isn't easy to hear either.  I usually say or type this out in response:

1 Timothy 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

I know in America we are not suffering the intense persecution of some folks, but some instances are cropping up for me that are showing things as they are. Recently I've had someone tell me, you are bringing division between people! They told me, this "This With Me or Against Me" stuff is dysfunctional, bible believer!" 

I said, well, there will be division in this world!  This is where knowing your Bible helps....

Luke 12: 51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:

I quoted that verse to them. Not sure what they thought but I hope it made them think. I can tell the pressures to "become one" or religions to join together or for humanity to join together with no divisions have only grown stronger. What was the "global awakening" message about but just another "unify" message? There is no mystery to me why every religion has jumped on the unity-globalist bandwagon, save for bible-believing Christianity. 

You know you are witnessing a lot, when someone forbids you to discuss religion in their house. Yes, that happened very recently to me too. I didn't go to the event that was planned, and did stand up and say, "I can't deny I'm a Christian that would be denying God". One thing I am a polite guest and don't get up and preach and bang my bible but I guess quoting the Bible probably a lot and witnessing when I got the opportunities brought this to their notice.

I am know I am not always perfect in making my stands, I know I have to pray more myself about walking in faith and praying to God about what I am to do and when I am to speak out.

2 Corinthians 5:7

7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)

But sometimes it seems hard. God has put me in the position where the numbers of Christians around me are very few or they are far away. I would like to ask my readers for prayer regarding this issue, as it has weighed heavily on me.  I am not sure why this has been so long lasting but seeking to trust in God. Lately I have felt very solitary as a Christian outside of my relationship with God and a few friends. Maybe you do too. There are very few Christian people in my life around me, and even my old bible-believing church members are now far away. I relate if you feel this way and alone, like you are the "only one" out there. It is something I have to pray about all the time. I do have to hold on despite the constant pressure to "conform and be quiet" and not talk about such things. Satan's onslaughts to "shut up" can grow pretty intense out there. The world is working hard to silence the gospel and silence the Christians who still love the truth.

Friday, December 28, 2012

The Tri-Faith Intiative: Episcopalians, Muslims and Jews Together as One

Tri-Faith Intiative

Many have written that the way the one world religion would build up, is they would join together false Christianity, Islam and Judaism together, this is done on claiming the commonality of them being Abrahamic Faiths.  Such a thing has even been stressed by the Pope over and over again who has told us that Allah of Islam is "god" over and over.

These folks are planning a Tri-Faith center and a shared "campus" for their different religious centers in Omaha, Nebraska, America's "heartland'. The Episcopalian church is one of the most apostate branches of the harlot out there, though they are all headed to the same place, as the liberal-left wing of Rome, priests and gay rights promoted and all, it was no mystery to me while when I was Unitarian Universalist, there was at times shared services with Episcopalians as well as United Church of Christ members.  The UU church as well, promoted the three Abrahamic faiths coming together.  I wouldn't doubt if there aren't more of these organizations out there or centers being built. One can see that Tri-Faith definitely is going down the contemplative highway too. That is not a surprise as the contemplative movement advances ecumenism and the one world religion.
As you will note, here, no one will be told the truth, it will be everyone believing that all religions lead to "god" and deceptions of the tallest order.

1 John 2:23  Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

False Religions Love "Christmas"

India Celebrates Christmas
Arsh Wahi, a Hindu student at St. Columba's, says his family puts up a Christmas tree every year and stocks up on plum pudding and other Christmas goodies from the fabled Dehli bakery called Wenger's.
With its 70 varieties of cakes in the shape of stars, yule logs and Santas, this 86-year-old establishment is jammed this time of year with holiday-makers who eat and sing their way through the season.
Choirs echo in the churches across the city, and choral groups perform Christmas concerts.
Neeraj Devraj, a soloist with The Capital City Minstrels, says he's not Christian or religious, but celebrates Christmas with the same fervor he celebrates the Hindu festival of lights known as Diwali, and the Muslim feast of Eid.
"For me personally, Christmas is about getting together with the people you are fond of, people you love," he says. "It's great fun, it's the joy of giving. It's very Indian ... to just celebrate the aspect of being alive and being around people who matter."

One thing, I noticed about Christmas years ago, was that other religions and countries celebrate it, actually quite fervently from India, to China, it's popularity is spreading. If it was a true Christian celebration would the world's false religions all sign up and integrate it with their other religious holidays? China even has a name for Christmas called "Dun Che Lao Ren" which translates as "Christmas Old Man."

Christmas is just not for Christians

More "Integrating" the Gap? Troops Deployed to 35 African Nations

Pentagon Announces Troop Deployment in 35 African Nations

U.S. Army Teams Heading to 35 African Countries

early next year for training programs and other operations as part of an increased Pentagon role in Africa. The move would see small teams of U.S. troops dispatched to countries with groups allegedly linked to al-Qaeda, such as Libya, Sudan, Algeria and Niger. The teams are from a U.S. brigade that has the capability to use drones for military operations in Africa if granted permission. The deployment could also potentially lay the groundwork for future U.S. military intervention in Africa. In related news, the United Nations Security Council has unanimously backed sending thousands of African troops into Mali to help combat Islamist militants who have claimed vast areas in the country’s north.
U.S. expands its secret war in Africa

Be careful with infowars and Democracy Now, but it's interesting how some news is only reported in the "alternative" media. Think about how MANY countries this is, THIRTY FIVE, and the USA is broke and now engaging in even more wars?

See: "WWIII: One Nation At A Time"?

Thursday, December 20, 2012

A Good Reminder:

The School Shootings

Eph 5:16    Redeeming the time, because the days are evil.

Gunman kills mom, 26 others in school shooting spree

Please pray for the families and children in Newton Conn. One can see, this world growing colder and more evil as these widespread massacres become more and more common. To be honest, I have avoided most of the news, because it is too disturbing to me outside of reading some articles so I could post this. This is one of the most horrible events to ever happen.

Tears have come to my eyes even thinking of the horror those children must have felt as they were killed by a mad gunman. I started this blog article a few days ago, but took a long time to post on this subject and finish it. I wanted to mention it and do some justice to the subject matter, but it has just had me shake my head in sorrow.  What could be said, in this much face of evil? God is still there for all of us, and in the sake of children dying this young, with a kindergarten class being targeted, Jesus said it Himself:

Matt 19:14 But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.

Many times, we will have to pray, especially facing evil in this world today. Pray for those facing such immense grief over the loss of a child, that God gives them healing and peace in their hearts, and also of their own salvation and seeing their child in heaven again. One teacher was credited with laying down her life, for the sake of her students. 

Other thoughts I have had, is "What about the children who survived and now will be afraid everyday they go to school?" What of the fear and worry of millions of parents as they send their child off to school?  Or even children nationwide who hear about these shootings and now will be scared as they are sent off to school? Mass trauma programming and PTSD for a whole nation, evil of depths never even conceived of before, this truly has become a luciferian directed lost nation.   The nation can watch Obama "cry" with his dry eyes as other children die under drones in other nations but one wonders what is happening and the big picture behind all this.

This possessed, very likely would be MK ultra-"Manchurian" candidate basically shot up rooms full of babies. I read that he had even managed to bypass the school's security system which locked all doors of the school by 9:30 a.m. Have you ever asked yourself, why when these schools have lock-downs, where they tell the kids to hunker down down like fish in a barrel, right there in a room? This may be a small detail, but it's something I've thought about, guy comes to shoot up a school, and the schools make it so the kids can't even run away? Ever think about that one? Sorry but if I was a teacher if the windows were on the first floor and the kids could get out without hurting themselves, I'd be dropping them through [first floor windows close enough to the ground] and telling them to make a run for it, rather then sitting there like sitting ducks for a gunman just to blast open the door with a gunshot. Moving targets are far harder to hit then one's all gathered together.

I had a teacher friend tell me they had a "drill", I asked "What did that entail?" She said, "Locking all windows and the doors." She means well and is following school policy given to her, but how does a locked door work against a strong weapon that can just shoot away the lock in seconds? During Columbine they locked down the school for three hours, actually giving the two shooters there more time to move through the building to find new victims.

Now with this event, on the heels of the UN discussion of gun bans, stores are removing guns from their shelves and the voices are crying up for more gun control. As if gun control is going to keep guns out of the hands of criminals? It will only leave law abiding people more in danger. All the timing and instant outcry to ban guns, definitely is something to think about.

I do not think it is any surprise that the shooter's mother was called out as a prepper, course what was wrong with a woman that supposedly had this severely mentally ill son, but left him with access to weaponry without removing it from the home? One thing odd about that is they do not focus on how wealthy this family was, but make it seem like both crawled out of the backwoods somewhere. The news media have had a field day with that one focusing on her prepping and focus on the "end of the world", that definitely is being done to influence thinking out there.

How 'ticking time bomb' Adam Lanza went from 'genius' tech geek who grew up in a $1.6million home to heartless killer

There's some other weird stuff that has come up too, the fact the author Suzanne Collins of Hunger Games--remember that series? lives in Sandy Hook, and supposedly Sandy Hook is shown in the last batman movie on a map but as one guy mentioned isn't there a Sandy Hook Bay under Manhattan? Gotham City is supposed to be a fictional name for New York.

We know shootings in general have gone way up. What's the plan? The removal of the second-amendment? What do you think? Were the people so nuts years ago that claimed they were going to take everyone's guns away?

This is an article I caught too, but it's barely showing up in the news:

Libor scandal reveals frightening connection to mass shootings of 2012 

"One bizarre connection to the tragedies that took place at the Sandy Hook, Newtown, Conn., school is that the father of murderer Adam Lanza has a connection to the theater shootings that took place in Aurora, Colorado earlier this year by shooter James Holmes.
Killer's Adam Lanza and James Holmes fathers were reportedly expected to testify in the Libor bank scandal trial that took place in June. Peter Lanza, the Newtown Conn. killer's father is the Vice President and Tax Director at GE Financial, while Robert Holmes, father to Aurora, Colorado theater shooter, James Holmes, is the head scientist of FICO."

I'll let people watch this and make up their own minds, I do not agree with all of it, the Sandy Hook thing seems to be a stretch but there is more about Libor around the 10:00 minute mark and Lanza's father, Peter Lanza that applies to the above. 

The days have indeed become evil. Please pray. 

Wednesday, December 12, 2012

December 21, 2012, another false date

I see people getting nervous out there, who do not know the Bible or the warnings about date-setting, one knows the December 21, 2012, date has been been pushed, with the Mayans used as the ones claiming the world would end at this time.

Avoid Date Setters!

Are memories this short? Anyone remember the 1999, 2000, start of the millennium rigamarole? What's the next "special date", 2020? Today we are even seeing the 12*12*12 nonsense too.

While the NWO "could" make use of the date, for a variety of "planned events", I am not worried about the world ending that day, and neither should you.

Matt 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

One interesting thing I found is some of the Mayans, are now saying and I am paraphrasing here, "Hey the world is not going to end, we are going to enter a new dawn of peace and understanding". Hey you know the same concept the New Age teaches? The same one where I talked about on the "global awakening" thread. Never forget Satan's lies are the same across the board. The more religions I compare, the more the same lies are told. The shamans are all joined together from so many native religions with Satan's demons, and it's the same tune, everytime.  Sometimes words fail me to even describe the immensity of what is being set up, but it's from so many avenues, the 'new globalist consciousness" that ALL false religions including the Mayans have looked for and speak of. Warning Mayan priest who follows a false religion speaking.

The sad thing is watching self confessed Christians fall for this stuff. I used to read on some of those weird so called Christian websites, about the Nephilim returning on this date. Hasn't Tom Horn made use of December 21,2012 and Mayan prophecies? Ah yes, see the video below:

The world is getting to be a stranger and stranger place, both the government and Vatican decided it was important to tell us NOT to worry about December 21, 2012...

You'll see in the Vatican article they bring more lies into the mix, with the typical Catholic notion that the world will keep going on which is warned of in 2 Peter 3:3.

Vatican: World not ending, despite Maya prediction

VATICAN CITY (AP) — The Vatican's top astronomer has some assurances to offer: The world won't be ending in about two weeks, despite predictions to the contrary.
The Rev. Jose Funes, director of the Vatican Observatory, wrote in Wednesday's Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano that "it's not even worth discussing" doomsday scenarios based on the Mayan calendar that are flooding the Internet ahead of the purported Dec. 21 apocalypse
. Yes, Funes wrote, the universe is expanding and if some models are correct, will at one point "break away" — but not for billions of years. But he said Christians profoundly believe that "death can never have the last word."
The Mayan Long Count calendar begins in 3,114 B.C., marking time in roughly 394-year periods known as Baktuns. The Mayans wrote that the significant 13th Baktun ends Dec. 21. 

All this fuss over calendars, which there are so many systems of it is not funny and which have been altered time and time again.

 Daniel 7:25

King James Version (KJV)

25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

Why is Hillary Clinton Being Puffed Up to the World?

Warning video may cause nausea, but wanted to show this given who sings her praises.

This is kind of ominous towards the end, when Obama says "There will be more tributes to come."

Years ago I remember expressing surprise that she did not become a candidate for president.

Notice what figures appear on here. Interesting how Netanyahu who has been invited to Calvary Chapel pulpits, sings the praises of one Hillary Clinton several times in this video. I probably don't need to describe to my readers the malfeasance of the Clintons, that is territory that has been covered over and over in many places, but she loves the "common good" too.

United Nations Global Compact

I am reading a book now on the United Nations, it is not a book criticizing the UN but one that outlines all its agencies and how it works. This will be good for me to study.

A few weeks ago, I was telling an acquaintance with left leaning beliefs, who is educated about Monsanto, and decries it's genetically modified food, why I disliked the United Nations. I was able to prove to her that Monsanto is teamed up with the United Nations via the United Nations Global Compact and showed her the applicable links. If you really want to understand the NET as it were of the New World Order, really the research is right there for the taking if you know where to look. I wrote about Monsanto's membership in the United Nations Global Compact here:

"Monsanto trying to take over world seed supply, nation by nation"
Monsanto is one of those corporations that joined the UN Global Compact.
From their website:
"In 2009, Monsanto joined the United Nations Global Compact, the world's largest corporate citizenship and sustainability initiative. This strategic policy initiative is for businesses that are committed to aligning their operations and strategies with ten universally accepted principles in the areas of human rights, labor, environment and anti-corruption. The Compact is both a policy platform and a practical framework for companies that are committed to sustainability and responsible business practices."
The UN GLOBAL COMPACT, is the joining of businesses and corporations with the goals and aims of the UN. More Tower of Babel stuff for the Antichrist kingdom.

So I was over at that link the other day for a reason and thought to myself "What OTHER companies in America are part of this?

It's quite a few companies, 481 at this counting, including big names you had heard of. To find the list google UN Global Compact, go to the banner and then the buttons underneath and press the one that says Participants and Stakeholders and click on Participant Search and then whatever country you want to look up:

There are some big company names on there that you will recognize, make sure you proceed past page 1 and 2, as well as others that include Monsanto, food/beverage/clothing producers, pharmaceutical companies, automobile makers, and a well-known department store. 

 Guess who is one of the directors of the U.N. Global Compact Foundation?  This is the fund raising arm of the United Nations Global Compact....

"Private sector contributions provide vital support to United Nations Global Compact projects, helping advance corporate change and innovation around environmental, social and governance issues."

From ND newswire "ND Expert: A response to the Vatican’s call for a global economic authority" article dated Oct 25,2011

Ah that "common good" stuff again...and keep in mind what I just posted on regarding the Pope's calls for world government

See this too:

From Notre Dame website: "Rev. Oliver Williams, C.S.C.
Associate Professor of Management"

So wonder America is in trouble when so many of it's large corporations have aligned with the United Nations and it's goals, and the Catholic church's hands are right in there.

Monday, December 10, 2012

We All Knew He Was a False Prophet Already....

"Today, responding to a question from a viewer who wondered why her business is struggling since she thought God told her it would be successful, Robertson admitted that he sometimes misses God’s message. “So many of us miss God, I won’t get into great detail about elections but I sure did miss it, I thought I heard from God, I thought I had heard clearly from God, what happened?” Robertson replied, “You ask God, how did I miss it? Well, we all do and I have a lot of practice.”

Matt 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Pope Continues His Call For World Government

We know the Pope has called for world government before but looks like recently he has done so as well.

Warning Roman Catholic news video:

hmm what does this guy think? He's got his perfect triangle going.....

Pope calls for world authority as ‘moral force’

Pope calls for world authority as 'moral force'
By Francis X. Rocca
Catholic News Service
 VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- The world authority envisioned by two popes as a way to ensure global peace and justice would not be a superpower, but primarily a moral force with limited jurisdiction, Pope Benedict XVI said.
 The pope made his remarks Dec. 3 to a plenary session of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace, which was scheduled to meet for three days to discuss the theme of "political authority and global governance."
 In his address, Pope Benedict recalled that Blessed John XXIII had called for the "construction of a world community, with a corresponding authority," to serve the "common good of the human family."
 The pope also cited his own 2009 encyclical "Caritas in Veritate," in which he called for a "true world political authority" to ensure international cooperation, peace and environmental protection.
 The church offers "principles of reflection, criteria of judgment and practical guidelines" for such an organization, but no concrete legal or political recommendations, Pope Benedict said in his address.
Yet the pope stipulated that the proposed body would not be a "superpower, concentrated in the hands of a few, which would dominate all peoples, exploiting the weakest." The authority in question, he said, "must be understood, first and foremost, as a moral force, a power to influence in accordance with reason, that is, a participatory authority, limited by law in its jurisdiction."
Notice the double-talk, how can a "WORLD authority", have limited jurisdiction?

Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

If you have not read these articles yet, please read them:

The Vatican Wants World Government #1: Setting Up For the Beast

The Vatican Wants World Government #2: Redistribution of the World's Wealth


Wednesday, December 5, 2012

A Variety of Links #17

Creflo Dollar is at it again:

Add this to the bad preachers waxing worse files! "Cover your leaders" for their sins and other exposed evils? Where is that in the Bible? It's not. I get the feeling the Internet has been not a good invention due to the free exchange of information for some of these guys. Maybe a few have asked is that name "Dollar" his real name? His father was named the same. Yeah I googled it.

Creflo Dollar Says Don't Let Facebook Bring a Curse on You! [I don't agree with Wartburg Watch on many things but interesting article]

Jer 15:10    Woe is me, my mother, that thou hast borne me a man of strife and a man of contention to the whole earth! I have neither lent on usury, nor men have lent to me on usury; [yet] every one of them doth curse me.

The Vatican Instructs Employees to Wear RFID 

"Vatican clergy and employees will be issued with an identity card complete with a microchip-tracking device in sweeping new security measures designed to prevent a repeat of the Vatileaks scandal."

{video for information purposes, take Mark Dice with a grain of salt, the first half of the video is the most worthwhile and you probably can get by skipping the second half where he segues into weird stuff about brains of people being hooked into the internet becoming like gods}


Rev 13:17    And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

No surprises there, I am sure the Vatican supports RFID and it's related technologies. Wouldn't the next step be, telling their employees to get the chip IMPLANTED? If it's good for their employees which would include some lay people to a wide variety of monsignors, cardinals, and bishops, they will consider it good for you too.

A student in Texas has refused to wear an ID card with an RFID implant, remember with the RFID chip as long as you are "wearing" the badge or card, they know your whereabouts whether that be in the bathroom or standing in the street. I would refuse to wear one of these cards as well. It is against civil liberties as well as giving one's freedom of movement over to the state or other organization.

She is right about the religious implications:

Mark of the Beast: Refuse It!

Oh and by the way, this stuff isn't just for the Catholics, or hospitals or schools but CHURCHES as well. I snipped this off a website while writing today:


50% unemployment for young people.

When one reads the real cites about the economy the picture is not rosy, of course this is the time of the year where materialism is pushed for the false holiday of Christmas. So many unemployed, struggling and suffering and we get to see the annual greed fest of black Friday, it's riots and other holiday shop til you drop nonsense.

  "Youth employment is at its lowest level since World War II; only about half of young people ages 16 to 24 held jobs in 2011. Among the teens in that group, only 1 in 4 is now employed, compared to 46 percent in 2000. Overall, 6.5 million people ages 16 to 24 are both out of school and out of work, statistics that suggest dire consequences for financial stability and employment prospects in that population. More and more doors are closing for these young people. Entry-level jobs at fast-food restaurants and clothing stores that high school dropouts once could depend on to start their careers now go to older workers with better experience and credentials. It often takes a GED to get a job flipping hamburgers. Even some with college degrees are having trouble finding work.  "

This book title strikes me as odd, I have not read it yet. Isn't one supposed to aspire to things beyond THIS LIFE as a Christian. If God is boring to you, or mundane, or related to the dull things in life, then something is WRONG. If someone tells you to wash dishes for "god" to get wondrous enlightenment out of it, run! Don't forget Opus Dei was sold on that Catholic "worker" concept of finding holiness in the mundane things of life, and well in that case sleeping on hard boards and wearing spiked wires around your thigh.
I think this guy is right to question those who preach everyone has to  be radical and go be a famous missionary, and things like that but am I weird to think WHY IS EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS LIFE? To be fair,  I need to read it but the subtitle, "A breath-taking escape from the fantastical" seems to be saying something that isn't good. That almost sounds like something liberal types write when they get upset at someone believing in the bible literally. There was always this talk of "work" of "ordinariness" in Catholicism. If anything if you have the world's most boring life, and live at the lowest status in society, God should be anything but mundane to you.

Psa 33:8    Let all the earth fear the LORD: let all the inhabitants of the world stand in awe of him.

I don't celebrate Christmas. I have already written on this. The reasons are plentiful. If you are new to this blog, please read what I have written on Christmas:.

The Truth About Christmas

The house of the future?

Smart Growth and Communitarian Urbanism

I like the ideas of buy local and others they are seeming to advance as grassroots, but reading Fanatic for Jesus's article is a good warning. Maybe I should rethink why they are pushing some of this stuff even if it sounds good on the surface. The other day, I had two people, one who even told me he was a Republican tell me that THEY SHOULD TAX PEOPLE by the MILE for the sake of the environment. I said, "Do you realize that is an Agenda 21 item and showed them a link. I do not think they were too happy with me but one thing I am noticing a preponderance of people in America who seem eager to embrace their reduced freedoms and the chains now being locked around them.  This includes the reduced lifestyle the elites desire for the West that will accompany their desire for population control. Remember they are going to sell this stuff, as GOOD.

So when they want you to live in a 200 square feet hut, while eating your Soylent Green, they want to make it seem like you are doing "the earth" good. Have you wondered why they keep pushing those little itty bitty houses that seem barely larger then the  outhouses of yesterday? Ask yourself why they want everyone living this way and who profits? From the article linked above:

"If you read between the lines of their double talk, you can clearly see their goals are to:
Achieve a unique sense of community [a collectivist mindset];
Expand the range of transportation [buses and bicycles];
Increase employment [more part time and under-employed];
More housing choices [tiny houses/living spaces];
Equitably distribute the costs and benefits of development [some pay while others get rich];
Preserve and enhance natural and cultural resources [more restrictions on developing land and a requirement to volunteer];
and promote public health by way of walking [no one will be permitted to be fat or unhealthy, while others will be allowed to die without medical care].[2]"  

Glenn Beck’s Hypocrisy at all time High. When will America wake up and see this Rodeo Clown for what he is?

I've warned about Glenn Beck too, it is astonishing to me that so many still listen to this guy and trust him including apostate pastors. He is mocking his listeners in these pictures.

"Restore Love. Restore Honor. The Third Great Awakening? This man is the same one that had all of the Apostate Church leaders gathered in one rally, at several VIP dinners, and even held a rally in Jerusalem, and addressed the Knesset. He visited Rome and hobnobbed with Bishops and offered to help the Pope start Tea Party style rallies? Hello, is anyone getting this? His pièce de résistance is placing a bobble head of Barack Obama in a “pee” jar and selling it on EBAY!?
And this man is going to restore America to its former greatness? He’s a “Christian?” What planet am I on, is this Kolob or Earth?!! Get a clue people. Wake up from your delusion and see Glenn Beck for what he really is."

I am realizing I have been doing this blog for years now, it will be three years in April. That is a lot longer then I thought I'd be at it. God has blessed me with what I have been able to accomplish here and warn about.  I know some of my blogging has slowed down recently but will always attempt to post at least once a week. I haven't run out of things to say but finding time and energy to write it all down is easier at times then others. Please pray for me.

Wednesday, November 28, 2012

What is this Global Awakening stuff?

When I was a UU in the late 1980s and most of the 90s, my UU ministers would talk about the supposed time that would come to the earth, where humanity would give up all the false "divisions" between them and would "unify" in peace and harmony.

They believed like their New Age compatriots that "consciousness" would advance in humanity and human beings would evolve into "this new consciousness". One liberal art history professor who  spent time in Papau New Guinea that I had would back these teachings up discussing the time that the people of "Gaia" would come together in peace and prosperity and humanity would no longer wage wars and would go from an individual consciousness to a globalist one. Anyone even remotely familiar with the New Age knows this is a very basic teaching even within it's subcultures and sub-movements.

It's interesting to me, and one reason I think God led me to do this blog, how what I learned in the Unitarian Universalist Association and within the New Age is now being pushed full-bore in so called Christian circles. Keep the above theme in mind as you keep reading. We know the Emergents desire the same NEW WORLD as the New Agers. All these groups are being converged with one another:

"Christians Creating a New World" it reads above.  Well we have seen that theme all over the place, the Dominionists and others are even on the CREATE A NEW WORLD bandwagon, loving this world instead of following what the Bible says.

1 John 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

All over the place I am seeing this discussion of the GLOBAL AWAKENING.

What is worse, is even finding places that "expose" the NWO, and "conspiracies" and then seeing that term used, and usually it is about human beings coming into "knowing" and embracing this "new consciousness" under a new veil, but it's basically remarketed luciferian lies for the "conspiracy" set. Satan's lies are the same all over, and well, people who do not have the love of God and are not looking to eternity with Jesus Christ are totally invested in this world.

This is a twisted way to influence those seeking for truth in current affairs. The Jesuit "V for Vendetta" face, who I talked about on the posts [see here and here] dealing with the Occupy movement seems to be making an appearance STILL. It's strange how it has moved from the Occupy movement to those standing up against the new world order. But hey they desire to cover all angles, after all even Occupy protests were getting a few people there warning about the Federal Reserve.

I saw this on a website purporting to warn about the new world order. What does that tell you?
This graphic appears in some odd places, here for a secular music concert.  Just more brainwashing the young people for that agenda of global unity.

On another website, that shows itself as warning about the new world order, notice they got everything from the Rothchilds, MK Ultra mind control to HAARP covered but then they have the ultimate NWO agenda of GLOBAL AWAKENING right there.
How do I explain what is being done, this stuff makes MY HEAD hurt, but as more people find out the truth about the new world order, the bankers, the "control" from the top, they can't just ignore this.  The controllers and evil of this world, will be even using this to their own benefit. Satan has a trap and multilayers of deceit as I have warned, and well this is one of their most deceitful tricks...

Notice here how they call for GLOBAL UNITY for NON-COMPLIANCE against the NWO? 

Warning this link [ZenGardner] is NOT a Christian website and is akin to David Icke's type of writing where new errors are introduced to deceive thinkers and those who realize SOME of the world's deceptions. 
"Understand your enemy, and understand the weapons they use. Then use those same weapons against them. The money system is the head of the snake. Cut the head off the snake and the rest of it will whither and die. There need be No violence, no guns, no banners, no slogans, no group think, just a united act of global non compliance. 
  Remember that it is much easier to fight for principles than to live up to them and it takes a far braver man to stand up for what is right and spit in the face of authority than it does to blindly follow orders due to fear of the consequences. Understand that we are all one and the key to real change and unity in this world lies with love. 
  It is time for the people of the world to stop and realise that the divisions that supposedly exist amongst us are an illusion. There IS NO division and its time for everyone to understand the truth of this. 
It is through the constantly promoted illusion of division that the system is able to function but in order for it to do so, it needs public compliance. Stop complying with it and you will shut it down. It’s time for us all to collectively stand together and address the root cause of the problems."
  Interesting how they say "no group think" and then want the globe to be UNITED here. Notice the "divisions" thing too, what else to help bring in the one world religion? This is a repeated message in many different venues.

This is on a semi-related topic, but have any of you read the mutterings about a GLOBAL DEBT JUBILEE? [see here and here]  I wonder what part that would play if they decide on such a thing and not just using it to lull people asleep, sounds good right? But this would actually centralize the world banking power and money system even MORE. It also would probably affect notions of "ownership" we can't even begin to fathom.

Keep in mind the Pope himself called for a world authority to deal with the banking system. Now if you ponder these things, why wouldn't they push an agenda supposedly to dismantle "the system" while rebuilding stronger and more centralized "authority"? Sell the notion of "global awakening" to get people on board, thinking they are advancing society and freeing the "slaves" from bankers and others and you can see where this is headed all for the use of the Antichrist. That said, just as "fight the liberals" is a trap for Christians, do add "fight the new world order" to the list. Some may find that odd for someone to write who has filled pages of pages of a blog WARNING about the new world order, but there are so many traps for someone to fall into, away from spiritual warfare into carnal "warfare" and they will be putting that to use as well.

 2Cr 10:4    (For the weapons of our warfare [are] not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)

Well back to the GLOBAL AWAKENING... One can see this stuff all through out the so called Christian world too. This is a charismatic "Christian" website with Randy Clark who had ties to John Wimber and is connected to the School of the Prophets movement and from what I can tell the "New Apostolic Reformation". What a strange logo of a man thrown back upon a globe within a tear drop!
Why would Christians use a term like global awakening? Do you think they forgot what the New Agers used to teach about the globe "awakening" and coming into a "new consciousness?" I sure don't, considering the endless array of false teachings.

Christian books have the phrase too.  If one reads the Bible, it warns of a great falling away, not endless revivals to bring the world into a "Christian revolution".

By the way New World Order Elite Zbigniew Brzezinski speaks of a "global political awakening":

Brzezinski refers to the ‘global political awakening’ as “a truly transformative event on the global scene,” since:
For the first time in human history almost all of humanity is politically activated, politically conscious and politically interactive. There are only a few pockets of humanity left in the remotest corners of the world that are not politically alert and engaged with the political turmoil and stirrings that are so widespread today around the world. The resulting global political activism is generating a surge in the quest for personal dignity, cultural respect and economic opportunity in a world painfully scarred by memories of centuries-long alien colonial or imperial domination.[2]
Brzezinski posits that the ‘global political awakening’ is one of the most dramatic and significant developments in geopolitics that has ever occurred, and it “is apparent in radically different forms from Iraq to Indonesia, from Bolivia to Tibet.” 

Those who think "the global awakening" isn't being managed as well and believes the global unity is against the plans of the powers of this world, are very naive and not taking scriptural warnings seriously.

Even David Icke, deceiver, has warned of the global awakening that is supposed to take a "stand" against the new world order. Should we believe Icke or Brzezinski? I suppose it will be like the multiple "revolutions" in the Middle East.

Watch out for Christian ministries, that speak of GLOBAL AWAKENING, be careful of those who slap the term AWAKEN all over the place too. I am seeking that one ALL over the place. Some probably use this unknowingly but why is this particular slogan, word, being chosen?

That is a term that can be abused as well, such as when the deceived call for people to awaken their "christ consciousness", on the outlook for the Antichrist. That one seems to be all over the place with some of them adding RISE or ARISE to the formula. There is an Awakening "Christian" music festival and you can see it used elsewhere.  This is supposedly a "Christian" book, can you believe it? I wonder if that light trail forms a rune or other symbol?

I did a bible search on KJV to see if the word AWAKEN is in there, its not, but AWAKE IS in there over and over.

Rom 13:11    And that, knowing the time, that now [it is] high time to awake out of sleep: for now [is] our salvation nearer than when we believed.

Such a subtle thing but those who speak of being AWAKENED, that is a much more a prideful place, of falling for the New Age concept of being an "enlightened" one. Would you say as a Christian, "I am awakened"? I sure wouldn't, because a Christian place is to be humble and know there is new things always for God to show them. There is a big difference between shouting AWAKE to the sleeping people and the claim of being AWAKENED, and some who have been in the New Age will know what I mean.

Hmm hand signs and everything...

So why is that one all over the church graphics too? Some may think I am nit picking here over a simple "N" but think this out. As I have said before when you see "new language" watch out. "Only the Awakened Will Understand!!!" is written on the book below. I don't remember slogans like that being used before. Doesn't look like they have "woken up" to the basics of the one world deception yet.

Tell me what you think...

Isaiah 5:20-21 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

21 Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!

Blog Business: Deluged With Spam

Does anyone know any techniques to limit spam? I have the comments on moderation but a lot of spam is coming in, there was even over 150 posts I had to delete yesterday that was all spam. Just curious if others have faced this on their blogs. Don't worry if you comment, I can still get everything and post it OK.

Wednesday, November 21, 2012


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Happy Thanksgiving to all my readers. Tomorrow is a day to remember to thank God for everything He has done for us. Of course every day a Christian should be thanking God for the great things He has done for us, and His love for us in our salvation. 

1 John 4:19 We love him, because he first loved us.

I thank God for giving me the chance to have this blog and talk about what is going on, and about the things I and others have been shown. Knowing there are other Christians out there, who too are being warned by the Holy Spirit has been been a great comfort and encouragement for me as well. God is always faithful and will always be there for you. I know this year even exposing some of the things I have, and the hard subject matter, that while these things can be tough to talk about, that there is always joy, praise and Thanksgiving to be had in God's arms. Everyday I thank God for my salvation and for what He has done for me and praise Him for providing for us, His comfort and Love.

2 Corinthians 4:15 For all things are for your sakes, that the abundant grace might through the thanksgiving of many redound to the glory of God.

Psalm 69: 30 I will praise the name of God with a song, and will magnify him with thanksgiving.

Glen Beck's Strange Agenda 21 Commericials

from Fanatic for Jesus:

UN's Agenda 21: Sinister Commercials

Just so you know these commercials were NOT RUN by the United Nations but by Glenn Beck. They were basically fake commercials run to advance his new book. Course I find myself thinking why advertise for something you supposedly are AGAINST as many people watching those commercials who are not Christian believers will AGREE with the sentiments displayed? How many of those folks will come back and realize they were commercials run by Glenn Beck?

"For weeks, a series of suspicious advertisements have been airing during the breaks on TheBlaze. These ads have been promoting pieces of Agenda 21, and advocate for eugenics and other horrible policies. Now, Glenn has been clear in the past that he is a capitalist, but would he really allow ads to run that advocated for Agenda 21, a U.N. program that he first discussed when he was on FOX News several years ago? Today, the truth behind the ads was revealed: Agenda 21 is a new fiction book written by Glenn Beck which looks at a future where Agenda 21 has been implemented to it’s full extent. 
  “If you don’t know what Agenda 21 is, it’s the U.N. division of sustainable development. It’s a terrifying, terrifying reality and it’s all being done locally. This is something that I talked about two years ago on Fox, but of course, the conspiracy theorists among us say that I’m part of Agenda 21 and this ad is just proof positive to some.” 
One kooky website went so far as to call Glenn a globalist operative: “ has exposed Beck as a globalist operative assigned to undermine and neutralize the liberty movement. ‘Glenn Beck specializes in disinformation ops designed to trick his ‘conservative’ followers and lead them into dead-ends and cul-de-sacs that ultimately neutralize the political opposition,’ we wrote in June.” 
“Probably the best operative of all time,” Pat joked. “I’m going to come clean. That’s why I hired a team of filmmakers to make these four commercials for Agenda 21. I’m going to come clean with you. The United Nations did not pay for those commercials. I paid for them. I made them and I paid for them,” Glenn said."
Ah yes more battles for the show....if you get what I mean... Here's the book. I read elsewhere supposedly this other co-author lady actually wrote this book, and Glenn Beck made a deal to put his name on it. Be careful of that link, the author still thinks the "US Constitution is the law of the land", and that Agenda 21 is harmless.

Glenn Beck has written a new FICTION book called Agenda 21.   Isn't it interesting how these sorts always desire to profit off misery? More indoctrination and desensitization to a future system? [kind of like Hunger Games?]

Agenda 21 is a real deal. One can go to the United Nations website and look for themselves as to what Agenda 21 entails. I don't want to put the link here, but go and look at the preambles, sections etc. It covers everything from transportation, all various parts of industry and much much more. The amount of desired control and globalist micro-management you will see before your eyes, is awe-inspiring.

I am not sure what Beck's game is here yet. To get everyone against Agenda 21 labeled as "kooks"?
Any guy making a habit of hanging out with the Vatican is a hypocrite when it comes to standing up against the implementation of world government. The Pope after all pushes the Agenda 21 "green" programs and world government every chance he gets.  Of course we know Glenn Beck is a deceiver and in my belief pro-Agenda 21 commercials were made with helping to indoctrinate people in mind.

Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Preppers and God

Have any of you noticed how prepping is getting big in this country? By the way, I have no problem with preppers as people and there those who are committed Christians. I even have a couple friends long distance who participate in the "prepping lifestyle". I believe there are many people God is  instructing to "get ready" whether to take care of themselves or of others, when hard times hit.
Many preppers are "new world order aware" and awake to what is going on which is an asset. There are some people who were sitting in NYC and NJ last week who I am sure, probably regretting mocking some of those "crazy" preppers

As you know, I think modern life is not all it's cracked up to be, and as people moved off the land, and away from family and friends, it just made everyone more vulnerable to being controlled via the global elites. We have lost valued old time skills, such as gardening, canning, building things, and basic survival. I certainly do not have any outside of knowing how to bake bread from scratch and building a fire from sticks learned at a Girl Scout camp. Many people who grew up in suburbs and cities, never learned some of what Grandma took for granted. As society grew more complex, people grew more dependent in many unpredicted ways.

The preppers are right about many things, the stores clean out everytime there is a storm, and big storms, watch out!  If you have ever been in a hurricane, blizzard or other event, you probably know what I am talking about.

But I have concerns about some aspects of prepping. One thing about prepping it costs money, some people who are poorer may manage to keep a week of bottled water, a few lanterns and canned meat, but there are many living paycheck to paycheck who are not going to be able to store a few years worth of food, gas masks, special clothing, tools, or even own the land or house with a fireplace or wood stove, for alternative methods of heating or growing their own food. Every time a storm hits and the lights go out, and if you're somebody living in an apt, that is all electric run, you may question the wisdom of that but then what do you do, if there is no money for a mortgage or any land? You do what you can and trust in God to help you and start praying.

Read the lists of prepping supplies and the costs even for your basic prepping lifestyle, can run into the thousands of dollars. Everything from wood stoves, land to grow things on, cans for canning. This is not for the paycheck to paycheck crowd or for those who were separated from farm and family in the previous generation before they were even born.

Hey I have read magazines like Backwoods Home and others and know there has to be some expendable income in play to many of these things. People in the city are especially vulnerable. Sometimes I have to admit, I got tired of watching on news websites some people on the comment sections lambasting those for not preparing before Hurricane Sandy and say "What's wrong with those people?" or "It's their fault, they didn't prepare!" . Even today, I was reading some folks on a right-wing website showing anger at disabled elderly people who got trapped in a 37 floor building in the aftermath of Sandy, where they said, "Well they choose to live there!" Having known big city life, many are living paycheck to paycheck and the end of the month, the larders have grown short. For the old and impoverished they take what they can get. So there are people who did not have much of a choice while others were not wise but the assumption that everyone can "get ready" is a false one.

It seems there is a dog eat dog kind of mentality growing out there, this isn't everyone of course, but we are seeing the negative attitudes growing in the every man for himself culture. This isn't every prepper, but some can go overboard with the me first and "I'll survive at all costs" mentalities. Remember the media is pushing that stuff day and night every which way.  What does the Bible say in terms of helping others? One thing to ask yourself if it all goes bad, are you going to follow the law of the jungle or the law of God?  Spiritual preparation is the most important.

2 Cor 9:6-15 But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully.

7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.

8 And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work:

9 (As it is written, He hath dispersed abroad; he hath given to the poor: his righteousness remaineth for ever. 

One strain of falseness I see on the false right wing side, is the self reliance at all costs stuff, with Ayn Rand philosophies married to social darwinism that is anything but Christian. This isn't every prepper either, but there can be the taint, of pride in someone who thinks they are ready for anything and can outlast whatever is thrown at them. The left is false too in their exploitation of the poor but as people know I have confronted the right here too. Visit your average website on the "right", and the message's all over are the poor are a bunch of "deadbeats." They supposedly are the cause of the debt instead of endless wars and the dismantling of the manufacturing system in America. Compassion for those facing hardship is diminished. Self reliance is a key phrase in prepper culture, and sure there can be some positives in taking responsiblity but be warned of those who take that too far, and get into "survival of the fittest" mode.

I have been thinking how prepping is arising out of disconnected culture, where community has broken up in America, where the every man and household for itself stuff is holding sway! Sure there are some communities that join together even in prepping, but in thinking about this, it seems it really has gone to the extreme. When some folks are literally wanting to turn their homes into bunkers and take to the wilds, it means that something has shifted in a society. We don't need to debate the need, I understand their motives, but it is something to notice.  It really says a lot about the levels things have gone and how people feel so vulnerable in a society that seems to be cracking at the seams, and where there is a disaster around every corner.  It really shows how in American society, the ennui, the loneliness, the detachment from other people is playing out. It's making people afraid. Even the non-believers know something has shifted.

One disturbing thing though, I have seen too many trusting in their stuff. Think about this: were there any Sandy hurricane victims who saw their preps washed out to sea? Some may say "Maybe a prepper would never live too close to the ocean!" but one thing so many things can happen in this world, you can't be ready for EVERYTHING. If you are prepper thinking those storages of food, medical and heating supplies will automatically save the day, there are endless unforseen circumstances from others collecting up your foodstuffs to needing to evacuate. Maybe I've read too many World War II memoirs, when chaos ensues, shelves and shelves of supplies aren't going to be a hedge against every calamity.  It's impossible.

Matt 6:20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:

Here is where trust in God comes in.

What does the Bible say about preparing? Well here, these verses follow with the be awake and be ready. Some preparations can be led by God. If God gives you the resources to make something happen and you feel led in prayer to prepare certain things, then do so.

Proverbs 22:3 A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished

Luke 22:36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

Proverbs 21:20 There is treasure to be desired and oil in the dwelling of the wise; but a foolish man spendeth it up.

Proverbs 35:31 The horse is prepared against the day of battle: but safety is of the LORD. 

But overall, one is to trust in God to meet their needs and not live in worry and fear.

Philippians 4:19  But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus.

Matthew 6:24 Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own. 

Now remember I am not saying prepping is "wrong",there are those, God is leading to prepare ahead of time, but there are many things to think about in regards to it. What are your thoughts? 

White House ‘secede’ petitions reach 675,000 signatures, 50-state participation

White House ‘secede’ petitions reach 675,000 signatures, 50-state participation

What is happening to America? This isn't a good thing showing how the two party system has worked so well to divide the country, perhaps by DESIGN in my opinion. "Civil wars" are not something positive on the menu. I find myself wondering how bad things are going to get when the Obamacare bills come in the mail?

Everything seems to be getting weirder here. Can you imagine this being in the news 30 years ago? I don't know if anyone remembers but I posted about this link or put it in comments a long time ago. Remember when this guy was talking about this back in 2008?
Russian Igor Panarin: America Will Break Up, Dissolve

I find it interesting they are even putting this stuff in the news, we know they hide certain things and publicize others..... To add to the strife?  To add names to lists?
Residents in more than 30 states have filed secession petitions with the "We the People" program on the White House website. Petitions to strip citizenship of individuals signing onto petitions to secede and exile them have also been submitted. A threshold of 25,000 signatures must be met within 30 days for petitions to be reviewed. The Obama administration explains, "If a petition meets the signature threshold, it will be reviewed by the Administration and we will issue a response."
  Some of the people are rightly outraged at things like the NDAA and TSA but overall one wonders where this is going. What would be their response? It is a bad sign of where things have gone that is for sure.   I am still pondering what this all means. Romney supported just about everything Obama follows.

Monday, November 12, 2012

Calvary Chapel Pastor Sues Son For Cyberbullying

I got this link from Christian Research Net:

Calvary Chapel Pastor Sues Son for Cyberbullying
Chuck Smith's Calvary Chapel movement—which faced a day of reckoning and uncertain future in 2007 over concerns about lax moral standards among its leaders—is making headlines once again. 
  It's not often that a father will sue his own son. But Bob Grenier, pastor of Visalia Calvary Church, says he is tired of his estranged son Alex Grenier's "cyberbullying campaign" against his parents and their church—so the elder Grenier is pressing charges to make his son stop. 
In a lawsuit filed in October, Bob Grenier alleges that Alex Grenier launched a website and "posted accusations that his father committed felony child abuse against him and his three brothers while pretending to be an upstanding preacher and police chaplain," the Fresno Bee reports. 
Besides libel and slander, the lawsuit also alleges that Alex Grenier and another Visalia church member, Tim Taylor, "engaged in intentional infliction of emotional distress of the pastor and his wife." The scandal broke about two years ago, when Alex Grenier first launched his site.
Alex Grenier, discusses things here.
"Make no mistake, the recent lawsuit brought by Calvary Chapel Pastor Bob Grenier is intentional, it’s strategic and it’s with the support of Calvary Chapel. Many in the Calvary Chapel System are watching closely. 
Many of the Senior Pastors are keeping a close eye on this. 
What message are we going to send them? Are we going to recoil in fear? Succumb to persecution for doing what’s right and righteous? Be silenced by fear of recrimination?"


Visalia pastor sues son over 'cyberbullying'

 Calvary Chapel pastor sues estranged son over ‘cyberbullying’

Calvary Chapel Visalia Pastor Bob Grenier Files Lawsuit against Son and Former Church Member

"If Bob Grenier and by extension Calvary Chapel (who he represents as an Affiliated Pastor) are allowed to get away with framing Free Speech, Whistleblowing and exposing abuse and corruption in the church as a “hate campaign” and “cyberbullying” and “defamation/libel”…then the Chilling Effect it will have on others is extremely frightening. This is a very important matter. If those who wield the Power of Public Figure and Position of Trust Pastor/Chaplain are allowed to win frivolous lawsuits in an attempt to cover over their bad actions and silence victims and critics and watchdogs, then beware, you might be next…and the result will be the covering over and enabling of much more abuse and corruption within the “church” and it will make it easier for Children to be abused and molested."

I wouldn't consider Bob Grenier a "fellow believer" concerning the bible passage below, but it is interesting how this man claiming to be Christian goes and SUES.

 1 Corinthians 6  (KJV)

6 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?

2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.

5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?

6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.

7 Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?

This really tells you how far gone things are in the churches.

I wrote this back in 2011 about the situation with Alex Grenier:

I think Alex is wasting time arguing with the guy. His best bet is to run for the hills, and while he can still speak out not engage the wicked. He is throwing pearls before swine and is only going to allow himself to be rend by them.
 I do not see him as a loose cannon, just someone who is young and was severely abused, and while outspoken, misdirecting his energies to expecting recourse from Chuck Smith. When he told him to "get a life", that said it all to me as to what Chuck Smith was about. How cruel can you get?
It seems that a godly man at least try and have some empathy for a young abused man. I saw Catholic bishops in articles and the rest having that 'get a life' attitude towards abuse victims.
I do not mind Alex speaking out against the abuse, I think that should continue, but expecting recourse from the abusers or their enablers, is a waste of time. He needs to realize even spiritually what he is dealing with. I am going to pray for him.
We are seeing that abuse issues are coming out in that church.